Readers reply: Why are nursery rhymes and fairytales so dark?

Why are so many traditional stories for children, be they folk stories, fairytales or nursery rhymes, so dark, creepy or macabre? Rachel Parks, West Yorkshire

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Readers reply Because the shadows make the light brighter and, sometimes, a little fear is the best kind of fun.

I expect at least some of the tales weren't, originally, particularly aimed at children, they were just oral folk tales. But also, as authors such as Roald Dahl show, children often rather enjoy the dark and macabre. And, of course, there's the famous (paraphrased) GK Chesterton quote: "Fairytales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairytales tell children that dragons can be killed." If you were living in a time when coming to a nasty end was a relatively common facet of life (even and sometimes especially for children), it's understandable that stories wouldn't be shy about it.

Before the last century, children were more exposed to death and suffering. A child from a family of five who survived to adulthood might see three of their siblings get sick and die along the way, along with adult family members – people died in the home rather than in hospital. Today, we try to shield children from awareness of death, but that's a recent thing. Randonusername222

They were meant to be lessons. This is the problem with people today: they don't tell children about the real dangers and then they grow up to vote for bullies and narcissists. If you don't understand the way danger will show up you're not. ThatsWhatIsaid2

When I was a young child, my dad enjoyed scaring me, not with fairytales, but with reality. At bedtime, he would say things like: "The sun will burn out someday," "School buses are deathtraps," and: "The government allows a certain number of rat hairs in cereal." Stories about dragons would have been far less scary – and less damaging to my psyche.

As Westley said to Buttercup in The Princess Bride: "Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something." That's why many fairytales are dark.

They reflect reality. Life is nasty, British and short.

The Grimm brothers were studying language and folklore in Germany and gathered many tales that are now regarded as children's books. But at that time fewer people could read, so the tales were mostly for grownups – instead of going to the cinema and watching a horror movie or hanging out, you would listen to horrific stories, where often children or young women are being misled by evil agents.

As a kid of the 80s, I didn't notice how dark they were, as they seemed like sunshine itself compared with the public-service TV adverts aimed at kids. Bloody hell. Give me a spider interrupting my curds and whey over going within a mile of an electricity pylon any day.

In the 19th century, alongside Romanticism in literature, the gothic grew. Mary Shelley is well known for kicking off one trend, with the likes of Edgar Allan Poe to come. Goya, at the very start, had noted : "The sleep of reason produces monsters." There are plenty of Freudian and even Marxist interpretations of it all, some fun to read, and these are embedded in our thinking. But there is a simpler way out. Goya's sleep of reason and Freud's exploration of the unconscious lead to the same place: dreams. Are the dreams of children more vivid than those of adults? Maybe. Might they in their own way understand weird tales better than their parents, preoccupied with railway timetables and shopping? Stressed out grownups have been known to regress to childlike states. Hollywood has depended on it.